5th Dan Test

Discussion in 'General Taekwondo Discussions' started by Matt, Apr 15, 2019.

  1. Matt

    Matt Member

    Hi Everyone!

    I am just about a year and a half out from my 5th dan test. I am curious to see what others have been asked to do for their 5th dan test and if anyone has any tips and tricks to prepare both physically and mentally.
     
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  3. Gnarlie

    Gnarlie Well-Known Member

    I've never been asked to do anything for a dan grade since the 1st Dan test. Self sufficiency is a prerequisite, it seems.

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  4. Matt

    Matt Member

    You have never been asked to show anything? Is the belt just given to you? No formal exam at all?
     
  5. Gnarlie

    Gnarlie Well-Known Member

    There is a grading exam, yes. The minimum requirements set out are those of Kukkiwon, the expectation is far beyond that. It is up to the candidate(s) to present what they know and can do beyond 1st dan. The examiner just gives the necessary commands for each discipline.








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  6. Matt

    Matt Member

    Understood, I am also tested beyond the Kukkiwon grading requirements.
     
  7. Finlay

    Finlay Active Member


    I have to say that sounds like a very good grading system.... I have come across quite a number of different approaches to exams in my time, but this seems interesting.

    If i may ask some questions,

    Are there forms that you are required to know, for each grade.

    Is the system in place to let everyone grade to their own standard? By this i mean older black belts have room to show technical ability of less flashy kicks, while the younger one maybe are expected to show a little more flamboyance

    Is there line work for basic techniques or are they done in a more open shadow boxing style?

    If you prefer not to answer I completely understand.
     
  8. Gnarlie

    Gnarlie Well-Known Member

    Candidates are required to know the Kukkiwon Poomsae up to and including the grade they are examined for.

    Everyone must fulfil the minimum requirement set out by Kukkiwon. Beyond that, the expectation is specialism and self motivation. Everybody brings something to the table. Performance across all disciplines must meet the minimum, with strengths in specialist areas and no weak disciplines below the standard. Yes, the expectations are different depending on age and physical ability. Where a candidate is limited in one discipline for reasons out of their control, there should be a clear counterbalance in others.

    Basic techniques are performed in all disciplines, and in isolation. There is plenty of opportunity to show basic technique in free format and in more formal drilling.

    Example: discipline command "footwork". It's up to the candidate to demonstrate what they know.



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  9. Gnarlie

    Gnarlie Well-Known Member

    The idea is that by the time someone is testing for a dan grade, they alreay have 9 gradings behind them. They know how it works and should be able to demonstrate knowledge and ability in each discipline without being spoon fed. This encourages independent learning and responsibility for one's own performance in training.

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  10. Matt

    Matt Member

    While I like the theory behind this way of testing I do not fully understand it. Does this lead to not all people of the same rank knowing the same material? Multiple people testing for a 3rd dan could do a very different test from each other and all still pass
     
  11. Matt

    Matt Member

    I will be required to show the ITF black belt patterns up through what my school teaches for fourth dan. I will also be asked to demonstrate the first four WT patterns. There is some variance as to what each age group shows. I would agree that sometimes my master has younger groups show "flashier" techniques and the older groups are based more on technical correctness. All of us will be asked to demonstrate basic hands and foot techniques as well as advanced hand and foot techniques that our school teaches at each rank. I will also be asked to spar, perform self-defense and break boards or bricks.
     
  12. Gnarlie

    Gnarlie Well-Known Member

    While I like the theory behind this way of testing I do not fully understand it. Does this lead to not all people of the same rank knowing the same material?

    Yes and no. They all know the required material, and have responsibility for presenting it. They also have some areas of specialism over and above those requirements.

    Multiple people testing for a 3rd dan could do a very different test from each other and all still pass

    Yes. That's the idea. We are trying to produce competent black belts with good all round understanding and specialism who have responsibility for their own learning and performance, rather than having them learn prescribed techniques and forms, risking them overlooking the underlying principles. It works.

    It also encourages looking outside of one's comfort zone, and means that black belts have material to share and exchange rather than living in a technical vacuum determined by rank.

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  13. Gnarlie

    Gnarlie Well-Known Member

    Another grading related question. Do you believe that gradings, especially dan level, should require extra practice over and above what is done in training?

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