Board and Brick Breaking.

Discussion in 'General Taekwondo Discussions' started by Matt, Aug 21, 2016.

  1. Pleonasm

    Pleonasm Active Member

    Belt fixation is truly 16 year old mentality.
     
  2. Gnarlie

    Gnarlie Well-Known Member

    Because you already know it all?

    You need a club to learn the art, and its strategy, tactics and techniques.

    You need to practice alone to reach a level of competency that makes those factors work properly.
     
  3. Gnarlie

    Gnarlie Well-Known Member

    As is avoiding the point with an inflammatory statement that is not relevant to the thrust of the argument.
     
  4. John F

    John F Member

    Yes as Gnarlie said. I was using your belt as an estimate. But hey maybe your the most badass whatever belt in the world and you have as much control as some one who's been doing this for years or decades what do I know. But I am assuming this because every KKW school I know allows kicks to the head. Yes that is a generalization but so what your original statement that all KKW schools are not training at their best.
     
  5. Pleonasm

    Pleonasm Active Member

    Which part of "KKW where I live", don't you understand?
     
  6. Finlay

    Finlay Active Member

    Gentlemen,

    Can I ask what any of this has to do with the original question.

    As so often happens on this board. A valid question has turned into small time arguing.

    We are a small group on this forum, and I believe it is in part due to many thread going in a similar fashion.
     
  7. Gnarlie

    Gnarlie Well-Known Member

    Too much negativity in general, too little actual Taekwondo being discussed, too little respect and too much deliberately inflammatory trolling. I've had enough of it. If people want to discuss taekwondo, fine, but if they are just here to bash it, then frankly they SHOULD leave.

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  8. Gnarlie

    Gnarlie Well-Known Member

    On topic,some of my favourites / bests for demonstration / testing have been:

    15 roof tiles with the fist or palm
    5 roof tiles with the fingertips
    8 x 1cm with the fingertips
    4 x 3cm with side or back kick
    3 x 3cm with inward knife hand strike
    1 x 3cm with short punch from contact
    1 x 3cm short power knife hand from 10cm distance
    5 boards in a single jumping technique
    Blindfold Bandae / 540

    I've learned a lot about Taekwondo through conditioning and polishing up for those techniques.




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  9. RTKDCMB

    RTKDCMB Active Member

    This is my latest:

     
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  10. Pleonasm

    Pleonasm Active Member

    1. Mas Oyama, one of the biggest advocates of breaking, developed osteoarthritis because of it.
    2. You don't have time to stop and focus during an actual confrontation, making it purely theoretical.
    3. Better to keep ones heath intact (see 1).
     
  11. John F

    John F Member

    You said this. You only used your "where you live" as an example. But you said this.
     
  12. RTKDCMB

    RTKDCMB Active Member

    1) As with everything, do it in moderation and you will last longer.
    2) Breaking boards and tiles is different than breaking humans. Breaking boards is an all or nothing endeavor. If you only hit with 99% of the force required to break the boards you don't damage the boards and you get a null result. If you only hit with 99% of the force required to break the person you still do some damage. Also you have to hit the boards a certain way, in a certain place or they don't break and you hurt yourself. I have seen people break bones in their hands and their feet when breaks went wrong so when you break boards and tiles, and the like, you have to set them up properly. Breaking is a test of technique, take my break above for example, if my technique was wrong and I had my arm too straight I could have seriously injured my elbow
    3) See 1 and 2.
     
  13. Pleonasm

    Pleonasm Active Member

    That's your argument for breaking, that one can sustain serious injury when done incorrectly? How about training techniques were there are no serious consequences regardless. Against a mitts, you will discern from the sound on impact alone if the technique was executed correctly, or at the very least effectively. There is no need for this relic training method.
     
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  14. Gnarlie

    Gnarlie Well-Known Member

    Don't do it then. Everybody happy.
     
  15. RTKDCMB

    RTKDCMB Active Member

    Really? That's what you got from that comment?

    Then you will limit yourself only to certain techniques. There are no striking techniques that can be done with power that have no risk of serious consequences.

    Breaking techniques are done in addition to, not instead of pad/ bag work. Hitting focus mitts does not give you the same information or the same level of certainty.

    In YOUR opinion.
     
  16. Gnarlie

    Gnarlie Well-Known Member

    Why are a people so keen to criticise what they clearly do not understand?

    Breaking is part of the art. Full stop.

    Don't like breaking, don't like Taekwondo.

    Don't practice breaking, don't practice Taekwondo.

    Don't like Taekwondo, don't do Taekwondo.

    Don't do Taekwondo, don't troll here.

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  17. Gnarlie

    Gnarlie Well-Known Member

    Alternatives:

    Unconscious people don't hit back. (Knockout power and precision can be developed through breaking)

    People don't hit back after a liver shot. (Precision can be developed through breaking)

    People don't hit back when you get there first and correctly. (Speed, accuracy and power can be developed through breaking)

    Boards might not hit back but people who break boards do. In my experience if a person is good at breaking, they are good at other aspects of Taekwondo such as sparring. Conversely, people who believe that breaking is not necessary or a waste of time tend not to be very good at it or other aspects of Taekwondo.
     
  18. Pleonasm

    Pleonasm Active Member

    There is no evidence of that. Hassan Kassriouri did not exhibit a higher kicking accuracy compared to Kickboxers/Thaifighters, and he is one of the best representatives you've ever had on the KKW side fighting in the ring.
     
  19. Pleonasm

    Pleonasm Active Member

    Don't tell me you are kicking boxing bags as well, ala 70s? That's a good way to wreck your knees, instead of kicking something more sensible.
     
  20. Gnarlie

    Gnarlie Well-Known Member

    I said that's been my experience. YMMV.

    I can 100% say that my own sparring accuracy is in part due to breaking and the practice that is required for extreme specialist / power breaks.

    You're contributing nothing on topic to the thread. Just refrain from commenting if you have nothing of value to add. Leave it to people who actually have something to bring to the party.
     

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