Does it matter if your school is not affiliated?

Discussion in 'General Taekwondo Discussions' started by Russell, Sep 17, 2019.

  1. Russell

    Russell New Member

    Does it really matter if your school is not affiliated with either WT or ITF so long as they teach you correctly and are professional?
  2. Gnarlie

    Gnarlie Well-Known Member

    That depends on you and your goals.

    If you intend to reach the kind of level where you are internationally active, or you intend to move around the world, or if you intend to train in Korea, then yes, it matters.

    If you are not sure about those things but want to keep your options open, it pays to be under an world level organisation.

    If you're in it as a leisure pastime, then an independent dojang might serve your purposes. The issue occurs if you get the bug and it becomes a way of life, and then your circumstances change. Life often throws a curveball, and if you have to change dojangs, you'll struggle.

    I also find that the farther from the source (take that as you will to mean Kwan / Korea / Kukkiwon / Choi depending on which org) you get, the less meaningful the training becomes. Sometimes to the point where an experienced practitioner can see it has little to no value for the practitioner, but presumably plenty of value for the owner of the dojang.

    So, in conclusion, choose what suits your needs, but choose wisely - you never know what the future might hold. For future proofing purposes World Organisation > National Organisation > Local Organisation > Chain > Individual.

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  3. Russell

    Russell New Member

    Thanks very much for your reply.
    I won't be doing any comps or going overseas to train as I'll die of old age before that happens as I'm already 68yo. LOL
    I just want to learn the art as that will be a big accomplishment in my aging years.
    I have just changed schools as the last school I went to was (in my view) not as professional as I'd like. (I got to red belt)
    I went to this new school's grading the other day and it was run well, certainly quite professional.
    The other school I went to only had 1 or 2 black belts to teach the students. (It is a rural branch so not as many black belt instuctors available compared to the city branches of the same school)
    Because of this, as an example, you would get yellow belts teaching the yellow tip students their pattern when the yellow belts had only just learnt the pattern themselves. Mmmmm, not right to me....
    There were lots of other small reasons why I changed schools and as you know, lots of small reasons end up one large reason to shift. ☺
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  4. Rugratzz

    Rugratzz Active Member

    I agree with Gnarlie. It really depends on what you want out of your training. For those of us who are well over 21, Competitions are not always very high on the agenda. Saying that who knows what the future has in store for us.

    Its hard to say what other clubs do, as I can really only talk about the few I have trained at (not that many) If you are just visiting then often just a record book, is enough, and they will/may (for a short period) accept your grade. if you permanently move to the new club, and your grade isnt from an recognised association, they could ask you to start from white belt, or do a assessment grading, to see where you would fit in their grading system.

    Finding out the history of your club and instructors, is helpful. When I started at my club, I did that. It will also let you know what path the club is taking (WF, ITF, or none). I would have thought that any instructor would be happy to talk about the clubs history, Mine was, and I had an hour discussion on not only the clubs history but its history back in Korea.

    I wish you luck, What ever you decide, be happy and enjoy your training.
  5. Russell

    Russell New Member

    Well, I went to the new school twice this week to train. Definitely staying with them.
    They are professional and seem to teach properly. Yay!
    I've already learnt the first 3 ITF patterns as they are different to Kukkiwon style.
    I hope after assessing me I can jump to green belt. (After the next grading of course)...........................I
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  6. Rugratzz

    Rugratzz Active Member

    That's good news. Hope everything goes well.
  7. dvcochran

    dvcochran New Member

    Being a red belt in WT/Kukkiwon style will help you migrate since working out is not completely new. That said, the ITF patterns, methods, and some of the ideology are quite different. It may be to your advantage to start back at/near white and jump test a couple of times until you get your ITF sea legs. The amount of class time you can commit will play a big factor.
  8. Russell

    Russell New Member

    I've been at the new club for just over 3 months now and it's all good!
    Because I trained in the late 70s to the early 80s at their school and received my blue stripe, I was able to start where I left off.
    (i.e. Green belt blue stripe)
    The idea was to not go to grading this month but to go to grading in March.
    I've already learnt all my patterns up to and including blue stripe and am up to speed with 3, 2 and 1 step sparring for my level.
    I'm very pleased with my decision to change schools. ☺
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  9. dvcochran

    dvcochran New Member

    That is great to hear. I do like how ITF puts more emphasis on one-two-three steps. There are several forms (24 I think). That alone can keep a person pretty busy. I came up in MKD TKD when the change was being made from Palgwe to Taeguek poomsae Plus we learn 5 Pinan forms so we can get pretty for heavy in the higher ranks.
    3- Basic
    5 - Pinan
    8 - Palgwe
    8 - Taeguek
    9 - Yudanja
    3 - Naihanchi
    - MDK/TKD/TSD electively
    41 - Total

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